musings about the avengers and hp fandoms
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i realised earlier today that part of what i really love about the avengers fandom is that it's a lot less slash based than any other fandoms i've been in. in the sense that it doesn't really matter what i write, there'll still be an audience for it. there's not this pressure to put a slash between two characters and write only that and post only that, i can write a gen epic if i want to and it won't be seen as a lesser fic for it.
there's a lot of freedom in that fandom and i'm finding that most of the ideas that pop into my head, whether i write them down or not for potential future use, are much broader on the fluffy gen-hardcore gaysex spectrum than anything i've done before. before i'd dismiss an idea out of hand if it wasn't slash-centric, but now i have no such constraints.
case in point: i've created 5 works for this fandom and out of those 5 works there is:
- one pure gen fic: burning bridges (natasha, clint and phil)
- two mainly gen (i see them as gen, however there is slash in the background): how to become a superhero (tony-centric brofic with bruce wayne, side of tony/steve and background clint/phil) and agent sitwell: bnf (sitwell-centric crackfic with background tony/steve and clint/phil)
- one human/artificial intelligence fic: love in these modern times (clint/jarvis, crackfic of sorts)
- and only one purely slash fic: the suit porn fic (tony/steve)
i've created 30+ works (fanart included) for the harry potter fandom and not a single one is gen. (in my old fandom, whose works i've pulled offline, there were some 30-40+ fics and not a single one of those was gen either.)
DISCUSSION TIME.
in HP i feel like genfics are frowned upon and not really given space to - sure, there are always gen prompts and fics in multipairing fic fests, but even in the rhethoric you see it: those are always referred to as multipairing fests even if it also allows no pairings. the genfics generally seem to get a lot less readers than slashfics, too. it seems that people are divided into pairing corners and aren't very open to new pairings/gen fics. how is your experience with the HP fandom?
i haven't taken part in any avengers fests (though i've signed up for my first one) but i get the impression that it's an everything goes fandom. people seem open towards pretty much anything, so long as the fic premise sounds interesting to them.
i'm going to wager a guess that part the reason is the places on the internet these fandoms have their "homes" in. HP hangs out a lot on LJ, which is journal and community based, so one has to join specific communities for specific things. someone who joins only
remusxsirius, for example, won't be as easily "exposed" to other pairings or genfics than someone who watches
potterslash. i haven't been able to find a catch-all community for HP fics, which i take to mean as a sign that people aren't interested in going beyond their own OTPs.
the avengers fandom, on the other hand, is a lot less on LJ (though there are communities) and seems to have their homebase on AO3, which structurally is very, very different. just by visiting the avengers fandom on AO3 one is subject to every single new fic in the fandom, regardless of whether it's gen, het, slash or whatever else. there aren't communities to post the fic to, there is just the archive, and only the tags specifiy what the fic is. and if your fic isn't slash, gen, het or multi, there's an 'other' tag. the whole structure of the site invites a broader variety of fic simply because it's easy to post it due to fewer constraints. one doesn't have to fret over finding a comm on LJ for the fic if it doesn't fit into the ones that one normally uses.
thoughts? agreements? disagreements? other?
there's a lot of freedom in that fandom and i'm finding that most of the ideas that pop into my head, whether i write them down or not for potential future use, are much broader on the fluffy gen-hardcore gaysex spectrum than anything i've done before. before i'd dismiss an idea out of hand if it wasn't slash-centric, but now i have no such constraints.
case in point: i've created 5 works for this fandom and out of those 5 works there is:
- one pure gen fic: burning bridges (natasha, clint and phil)
- two mainly gen (i see them as gen, however there is slash in the background): how to become a superhero (tony-centric brofic with bruce wayne, side of tony/steve and background clint/phil) and agent sitwell: bnf (sitwell-centric crackfic with background tony/steve and clint/phil)
- one human/artificial intelligence fic: love in these modern times (clint/jarvis, crackfic of sorts)
- and only one purely slash fic: the suit porn fic (tony/steve)
i've created 30+ works (fanart included) for the harry potter fandom and not a single one is gen. (in my old fandom, whose works i've pulled offline, there were some 30-40+ fics and not a single one of those was gen either.)
DISCUSSION TIME.
in HP i feel like genfics are frowned upon and not really given space to - sure, there are always gen prompts and fics in multipairing fic fests, but even in the rhethoric you see it: those are always referred to as multipairing fests even if it also allows no pairings. the genfics generally seem to get a lot less readers than slashfics, too. it seems that people are divided into pairing corners and aren't very open to new pairings/gen fics. how is your experience with the HP fandom?
i haven't taken part in any avengers fests (though i've signed up for my first one) but i get the impression that it's an everything goes fandom. people seem open towards pretty much anything, so long as the fic premise sounds interesting to them.
i'm going to wager a guess that part the reason is the places on the internet these fandoms have their "homes" in. HP hangs out a lot on LJ, which is journal and community based, so one has to join specific communities for specific things. someone who joins only
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the avengers fandom, on the other hand, is a lot less on LJ (though there are communities) and seems to have their homebase on AO3, which structurally is very, very different. just by visiting the avengers fandom on AO3 one is subject to every single new fic in the fandom, regardless of whether it's gen, het, slash or whatever else. there aren't communities to post the fic to, there is just the archive, and only the tags specifiy what the fic is. and if your fic isn't slash, gen, het or multi, there's an 'other' tag. the whole structure of the site invites a broader variety of fic simply because it's easy to post it due to fewer constraints. one doesn't have to fret over finding a comm on LJ for the fic if it doesn't fit into the ones that one normally uses.
thoughts? agreements? disagreements? other?